and no that's not necessarily a benefit to the poor, or the underprivileged, or any other banner of victimization that you might fly to justify that state. If it doesn't meet this definition, I wouldn't call it socialist. It has power, to some degree, but it doesn't have real representation. Quote German Wikipedia on Sozialismus[1], which views Sozialdemokratie as one of its branches: > Demzufolge wird auch grob zwischen den Ausrichtungen von Kommunismus, Sozialdemokratie oder Anarchismus differenziert. some of the people (other than Scott) who influenced my thinking on this would be: Berger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_L._Berger (especially http://perflensburg.se/Berger%20social-construction-of-reali...), Jacques Ellul https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSoci... (also Propaganda). One can make arguments either way. We as a society have decided that this is the correct decision for that instance to ensure that it won't repeat itself in some form or another in the future. It is not a joke at all. If those are the only places they can get new converts, they are not going to be wildly successful. But, as people keep forgetting, Europe has giant multinationals and lobbyists of its own. It's like a. But you'll notice that most countries actually don't want this - especially Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe profit hugely from the EU and would never seriously consider going back to the previous state of things. Once you put sufficient power in the government: the most ambitious individuals will compete for privileged positions within political movements rather than businesses, political movements will compete with alternative political movements for the reigns of government. Long gone are the days of kid safe TV and the heyday of Saturday morning cartoons. Parent didn't call Finland socialist, just said "more socialist". Meh, agreed, it wasn't organized by the military. They declined to comment on the reports as they worked to clarify the matter. When your value as a human being is tied to a monetary competition, you are either rich and alive or poor and struggling to survive. Clearly not. Instead, let me refer you to https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili... who maybe can get the point across better than me. Video clips from the film play throughout. A textbook reformist democratic socialist policy would be giving employees a seat on the board of directors, or allocating some company shares of publicly traded companies to them. My point is that there are plenty of lobbies in America which are powerful and work on behalf of the non-rich. [3], An investigation by the Defense Department Inspector General's office (IG) in September 2006 concluded that "the evidence did not support assertions that Able Danger identified the September 11, 2001, terrorists nearly a year before the attack, that Able Danger team members were prohibited from sharing information with law enforcement authorities, or that DoD officials acted against LTC Shaffer for his disclosures regarding Able Danger." > Democracy isn't so much threatened but actually harmed by the mere existence of centralized power. https://ipa.news/2018/12/30/turkeys-pro-government-construct... https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili... https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili. To me the EU is becoming Germany's revenge for losing two wars: they failed by military force, so now they are taking it over by economic domination. Even success stories in maximising their geographic advantages like Singapore hardly qualify as 'more democratic'. The inspector sent the old I-94 and the corrected I-94 to the contractor which data enters I-94s for the INS. Even if a social policy was first introduced in response to uprisings, that doesn’t demonstrate that simply quelling the uprising was its sole purpose. I think the reason why centralization is a danger to democracy, is because of lobbying. The government introduced advertisement ban on media that doesn't have a local office to respond to government requests. Mohamed Atta is in the U.S. on a green card, and we are fearful of the fallout from the Waco incident. Email is probably the best-known part of the Fediverse. Politicians need information from non-politicians to form and implement coherent policies that work for the people. Switzerland has mostly private funding, even heavier regulation (insurance is mandatory and you can't be refused for pre-existing conditions, for example), and most practice is private (some public hospitals). Definitely going to spend some time Capitalism and a free market are pretty much orthogonally related (consider, if you will, the ideal capitalist state in which a single capitalist controls 100% of the market). [34][35], Former chief assistant U.S. attorney Andrew McCarthy and others have asserted that the Able Danger intelligence was suppressed as a result of a policy of forbidding the CIA and FBI to share intelligence known as "the wall. And having a solid social system in place is hardly a socialist thing. Those dealing with How: for the converted. Democracy also allows for failure if the people do not see their will adequately reflected. I have a slight different idea that is also very unpopular. Can you think of any government agency that has such powers? It's worth questioning to what extent fundamental human desires really are so fundamental, isn't it? AFAIK in the US speeding tickets are flat fees. The Senate Judiciary Committee first attempted to investigate the matter for the Senate in September, 2005. A sitting politician complained for fraud. Remove power from the central entity, and there will be less of an incentive/risk of abuse? And if he "orchestrated" a walk-in into the Capitol (where nothing much happened, and politicians were up to business as usual the very same day), the other side has organized and lauded dozens of protests, including some with looting and even burning of police departments and areas of cities, throughout 4 years. > Convicted criminals can still vote. In a decentralized system, you'd still have lobbyists, they'ed just be spread out more. A decentralizalized internet means configuring your router to peer with routers in the houses that you can see from your house. Contests. Otherwise, the word socialism would lose its meaning. Again, probably not your intended meaning, but I wanted to address it anyway. There's merit in what you say. If there is an issue, let's say global warming or geology, the flat Earthers should be able to post a visible statement under the photo of Earth posted by NASA and climate scientists should be able to post a statement to climate change deniers content. And Finland is somewhere in-between. Days of the Bagnold Summer ... in the complexities and controversies surrounding Australia and New Zealand's involvement in Vietnam may find "Danger Close" disappointing. If anything, decentralised networks can be targeted very efficiently by a bad actor and the rest would have no recourse. While most democratic governments currently involve some form of centralization, a pure democracy is one where every person has equal power. Yes I'm caricaturizing. Private/semi private anti-vax groups are of course another huge issue right now. If you have none, you are none. Sources inside the store said Atta may have held a BJ's membership card for more than two years."[44]. Recent news. [40], Another variation of the Two Attas theory reported by Kaus notes that Omar Abdel Rahman also had an associate with the name Mohamed El-Amir (a name sometimes used by Atta) who was not the Mohamed Atta involved in the 9/11 hijacking. Unless you show up at the office crying. > They’re not wrong! startup taking advantage of the current ... Bangbros Bubble Butts, Hookup Hotshot, Extreme Movie Pass, Porn Pros, Cam Soda, Puba, Pure Taboo Official, ... Abella Danger - Click here to view all 1,894 videos. villains. Can you please elaborate on what you mean by “inflammatory actors” a bit? Which might be measured as the proportion of wealth owned by the wealthiest few, and the rest of the peoples. A few others had "medical emergencies". Are you saying these countries would be better off outside of the EU? Browse through and take my chemical romance danger days movies quizzes . > Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe profit hugely from the EU and would never seriously consider going back to the previous state of things. There's only an incentive to invest in content moderation to the point where the issues caused by the people they host are threatening the performance of the business model. We need both the ability to centralize some aspects and diversify other aspects. In most of Europe it's quite a positive thing to say your government is more socialist, or has more socialist policies. Not everybody is finding things the same way as everybody else, so esoteric garbage mistakenly promoted by somebody's bad code doesn't have as much reach. The question for this Committee is to investigate how far that position extends and why. So there is that. In an interview with Fox News, Smith reported that the project had involved analysis of data from a large number of public sources and 20 to 30 individuals.[32]. Lobbying isn't easier in a centralised power structure. Strong Political Commitment at the Higher Levels, 4. The same thing is probably happening on an EU level, where many people feel their local government has less power than before, but the EU institutions are dominated by countries with different interests. [23], On August 14, 2005, Mike Kelly, a columnist for The (Bergen) Record (New Jersey), described a telephone interview, arranged by the staff of Rep. Curt Weldon, with a man who identified himself as a member of the Able Danger team, but asked that his name not be revealed. What Ted Cruz and AOC exchanged on Twitter has no bearing to your county. The central bank keeps pushing money, Brussels and Berlin get happy about it until some external crisis show that the periphery countries never actually changed their ways and now are even more fragile to external shocks and even more dependent on the EU. Sustained Initiatives for Capacity-Building at the Local Level, 5. There's a new hope with Youtube journalism becoming mainstream but of course just recently Google was forced to create a local office to moderate the Turkish content. However, this occurred because the inspector at the Miami District Office who changed Atta's admission date failed to follow the proper procedure to ensure that the previous entry would be corrected, and a new entry was created in NIIS. ActivityPub is just a new/upcoming technology that's as much a part of the Web as RSS. A federated network gives better moderation tools to communities who actually want to moderate, but it leaves the radicalised communities free to grow, even freer than on a centralised network. Does this definition include people who actively refusing to be employed, or is there any kind of law obligations to work? Agree to everything you say, but also because of the tyranny of the majority. You have to be a Finnish citizen with no income to qualify. Unfortunately, local censorship is not a way to have our cake and eat it too. However, the businesses that provide the infrastructure and engineering that underpins digital spaces aren't in the "building communities" business. That's quite a "dream team" in my view! Centralization is a danger in an environment where there are a handful of individuals 100,000x more wealthy than everyone else. If one considers "Capitalism" and "Socialism" as the two extremes of an economic organization continuum (which is reasonable), Finland is indeed "more socialist" (or better yet, less capitalist) than the US. It concluded after it had achieved its objective and its work products were used in follow-on intelligence gathering efforts at USSOCOM. Relocalization seems like an obvious consequence of decentralizalization to me. everyone is trying to extract maximum value). On the other hand, cracking down on the violent-adjacent would just further radicalize them and push them into the violent underground. If anything it'd probably accelerate the process. So, basically anybody opposed to the TINA. It's really where two understandings of reality met. If you'd like to order some # ddtmrayguns inbox me. My way of thinking is that if someone mentions(even implies or dog whistles) someone else on a social network, the person subjected to the words should have an automatic right for a visible reply. Freedom actually corresponds well with the rise of nation states that centralized power. No, you are even more wrong. Capitalism and socialism, on the other hand, are very vague terms, and I think the many discussions here prove that. Sure, one can get rid of the EU. The upside of that maybe there is more awareness of what is going on. In real world social networks we have methods like labelling liars(You have one identity and you risk it every time you say something), right to defend yourself(You can actually identify and force your way to reach the people who are exposed to, or facilitate it) if you are being smeared for or accused of wrongdoing. [14], Following the GSN report, members of the 9/11 Commission began commenting on the information they had on Able Danger and Atta. The copies within Lt Col Shaffer's files were destroyed by the DIA in approximately Spring 2004. Effective Judicial System, Citizens' Oversight and Anticorruption Bodies to prevent Decentralization of Corruption. The bare minimum of being socialist is to want to transition away from a capitalist system which no country in Europe has any ambitions. They're $10 each. Instead of having multiple echo chambers on one centralized network, let's now have multiple echo chambers on a decentralized service where it's even harder to hear opposing viewpoints! If you know anything about Greece besides Santorini and Mykonos, it should strike a note. - EU: you say probably to something that every Euro-skeptic has been saying for decades already. > Has that ever happened or is that just an argument to let politicians keep their power? For the same reason, smallish countries seem to be much more democratic and closer to the people (e.g., Switzerland). "[30], Capt. [23], Congressman Peter Hoekstra, who was then chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, investigated the matter at Weldon's request, was reported to have cautioned against "hyperventilating" before the completion of a "thorough" probe. In fact, Able Danger produced no actionable intelligence information. The May 2, 2001, transaction with Atta was data entered and then uploaded to NIIS as if it were a new entry by Atta. So a wealthy person speeding will feel the hurt. High fanout bad faith actors (political demagogues) will always exist, but it takes an impedance-matching middle layer creating social proof to enable them at such scale. Successful extremists do it in the light of day, out in the open. I think the issue is better described as "corruption", rather than lobbying. It is most unlikely that Able Danger would have identified a terrorist called "Mohamed Atta" before May 2000. CIA will never provide that to you because if you were successful in your effort to target Al Qaeda, you will steal our thunder. Or a country where one party owns everything but pretends to act on behalf of the workers, as opposed to a country where everyone is a business owner? None of those are policies exclusive to a socialist system. 10. Apple pretty much bought Ireland's tax authorities. They further stated that a claim about Atta having been identified prior to the attacks had been made to the 9/11 Commission on July 12, 2004 (just days before the commission's report was released), by a United States Navy officer employed at DOD, but that, The interviewee had no documentary evidence and said he had only seen the document briefly some years earlier. If we moved away from a handful of services for the whole planet, wouldn't the logical next phase be a service or two per city? Kenny Loggins performs in the music video "Danger Zone" from the original motion picture soundtrack for the film Top Gun (1986) recorded for Columbia Records. I think if there was a more robust social media market instead of a Facebook/Twitter duopoly, we would have seen at least _some_ platforms move to restrict things sooner, and maybe even a majority of platforms. Watch 365 Days porn videos for free, here on Pornhub.com. This is effectively how QAnon spread, as a niche group on fringe websites, before it grew to millions of users. And the article does not really answer that, well beyond censorship. Then I discovered this on the dangers of decentralization: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization#Criticism, > Other challenges, and even dangers, include the possibility that corrupt local elites can capture regional or local power centers, while constituents lose representation; patronage politics will become rampant and civil servants feel compromised; further necessary decentralization can be stymied; incomplete information and hidden decision-making can occur up and down the hierarchies; centralized power centers can find reasons to frustrate decentralization and bring power back to themselves. [4], The Senate panel of investigators said there was no evidence DoD lawyers stopped analysts from sharing findings with the FBI before the attacks. No, I think the EU is far too decentralized in areas that matter. The hierarchical or aristocratic authorities did not interfere in the affairs of the community, which met to deliberate on political communal, financial, judicial and parochial issues. So democracy is a hollow word, or worse: a facade, a lie. It's a very unpopular sentiment here on HN, but I agree with the gist of what you are saying. If we see the gap widening we see that they get what they pay for, and the for-sure-not-super-rich masses dont get what they vote for. ", This page was last edited on 12 February 2021, at 15:20. When you broadcast it to five million people, you're going to get fifty thousand converts. Sure, excellent. People stuck in this "welfare trap" could actually work a little to improve their standing. So democracy is a hollow word, or worse: a facade, a lie. Isn't diffusion of power more-or-less the point of democracy? Unsuccessful extremists do their recruitment in backyards and echo chambers. My takeaway from this is that the web does need to go back to being decentralized, but a loose yet robust framework, like the one described above, should be in place for providers and community maintainers alike. Maybe (if you are lucky) you get some alternance of power so that no single group gets to be in control and some equilibrium gets to be established. A failsafe mechanism is possible here to counter lobbying of industrial complexes. Centralized decision-making by trained experts and reduced power for local wards made government less corrupt but more distant and isolated from the people it served. California having high taxes does not make it socialist. 1 boy. Political discourse seems highly polysemic. But online it's trivial to find some place that will let me post "hail satan" and ignoring its existence will just have to be good enough for those who don't like it. It also would require an unrealistic "deprogramming" of society which makes the idea just another utopia (at least not achievable without huge sacrifice to what we hold dear today). So you can't work part-time. Given the prevalence of self-hosting, it could be closer to being classified as properly decentralized except that there is a clear server/client distinction. >What we need is a mechanism for breaking circuits of lies and propaganda. I guess I never resolved in which camp I fall. I am glad to see the community continually re-discover this site now and again. That’s all there is to it, and calling Finland socialist seems rather inappropriate to Europeans. Like, say, Turkey? Hmm feels like a great tool to create echo chambers. [3] https://www.spd.de/fileadmin/Dokumente/Beschluesse/Grundsatz... That's hard to believe. Lobbying is much easier in a centralized power structure. It's the accumulation of wealth. I don't think you should be able to "broadcast" anonymously. In Germany (and many other EU countries), companies have executive board and supervisory board, the later is mainly to provide monitoring role and that is the board where empolyees have seat on. France did. Taxes are among the highest in the world (wealth redistribution). Who decides if they are “racist, sexist or violent”? A follow-up chart made after the attacks did show Atta. Like the comment said, pearl clutching all of the sudden. No doubt capitalist extremists want centralized services too because they can convert everyone to their ideology, consumerism. All the while cementing the country in a low-income periphery position by virtue of being dominated by the EU central bank actions. > Lobbies basically work in favour of the super rich. Nevertheless, I think in general de/centralization is orthogonal to censoring inflammatory actors. Everyone not participating in the capitalist economy (by owning business or being employed at one) is essentially a government/military reserve employee on indefinite paid leave receiving a budget that covers virtually all living expenses to quite a reasonable standard. - Can receive a maximum of around $50/month from anywhere else. I think we have to be careful here because none of these countries which we have thus far mentioned have any ambitions of attaining the socialist crown you speak of. They agreed that at least some of them are important. I don't think lobbying is a symptom of centralization. What we need is "diversity in unity and unity in diversity". I don't think you really need that much of a justification to claim that centralized power is a danger to democracy. So no need to use 'socialist' instead of 'social democratic' unless you want to dogwhistle to communist supporters. It would be very easy for media to discus it, and debung those arguments. There are always going to be communities like that. Yet, it caused so much pain to the Greek minority and Turkey lost so much as the Greek christian population declined from 120K to 7K in 20 years. I could indeed mine bitcoins for free. Which is a very different proposition. Even so, from what I read a guard was killed in an altercation with the mob, and a protestor was shot by police. The sad reality is that humanity is not ready for something like the Internet. Indeed local governments tend to be much more prone to graft than the central ones (though this may simply be due to the fact that there are so many more people to potentially corrupt). For example, if the EU had a centralized fiscal&monetary policy, things would have looked much less bleak for southern parts of the Union. Then it sort of works fpr couple of decades. 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But you'll notice that most countries actually don't want this - especially Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe profit hugely from the EU and would never seriously consider going back to the previous state of things. Once you put sufficient power in the government: the most ambitious individuals will compete for privileged positions within political movements rather than businesses, political movements will compete with alternative political movements for the reigns of government. Long gone are the days of kid safe TV and the heyday of Saturday morning cartoons. Parent didn't call Finland socialist, just said "more socialist". Meh, agreed, it wasn't organized by the military. They declined to comment on the reports as they worked to clarify the matter. When your value as a human being is tied to a monetary competition, you are either rich and alive or poor and struggling to survive. Clearly not. Instead, let me refer you to https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili... who maybe can get the point across better than me. Video clips from the film play throughout. A textbook reformist democratic socialist policy would be giving employees a seat on the board of directors, or allocating some company shares of publicly traded companies to them. My point is that there are plenty of lobbies in America which are powerful and work on behalf of the non-rich. [3], An investigation by the Defense Department Inspector General's office (IG) in September 2006 concluded that "the evidence did not support assertions that Able Danger identified the September 11, 2001, terrorists nearly a year before the attack, that Able Danger team members were prohibited from sharing information with law enforcement authorities, or that DoD officials acted against LTC Shaffer for his disclosures regarding Able Danger." > Democracy isn't so much threatened but actually harmed by the mere existence of centralized power. https://ipa.news/2018/12/30/turkeys-pro-government-construct... https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili... https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili. To me the EU is becoming Germany's revenge for losing two wars: they failed by military force, so now they are taking it over by economic domination. Even success stories in maximising their geographic advantages like Singapore hardly qualify as 'more democratic'. The inspector sent the old I-94 and the corrected I-94 to the contractor which data enters I-94s for the INS. Even if a social policy was first introduced in response to uprisings, that doesn’t demonstrate that simply quelling the uprising was its sole purpose. I think the reason why centralization is a danger to democracy, is because of lobbying. The government introduced advertisement ban on media that doesn't have a local office to respond to government requests. Mohamed Atta is in the U.S. on a green card, and we are fearful of the fallout from the Waco incident. Email is probably the best-known part of the Fediverse. Politicians need information from non-politicians to form and implement coherent policies that work for the people. Switzerland has mostly private funding, even heavier regulation (insurance is mandatory and you can't be refused for pre-existing conditions, for example), and most practice is private (some public hospitals). Definitely going to spend some time Capitalism and a free market are pretty much orthogonally related (consider, if you will, the ideal capitalist state in which a single capitalist controls 100% of the market). [34][35], Former chief assistant U.S. attorney Andrew McCarthy and others have asserted that the Able Danger intelligence was suppressed as a result of a policy of forbidding the CIA and FBI to share intelligence known as "the wall. And having a solid social system in place is hardly a socialist thing. Those dealing with How: for the converted. Democracy also allows for failure if the people do not see their will adequately reflected. I have a slight different idea that is also very unpopular. Can you think of any government agency that has such powers? It's worth questioning to what extent fundamental human desires really are so fundamental, isn't it? AFAIK in the US speeding tickets are flat fees. The Senate Judiciary Committee first attempted to investigate the matter for the Senate in September, 2005. A sitting politician complained for fraud. Remove power from the central entity, and there will be less of an incentive/risk of abuse? And if he "orchestrated" a walk-in into the Capitol (where nothing much happened, and politicians were up to business as usual the very same day), the other side has organized and lauded dozens of protests, including some with looting and even burning of police departments and areas of cities, throughout 4 years. > Convicted criminals can still vote. In a decentralized system, you'd still have lobbyists, they'ed just be spread out more. A decentralizalized internet means configuring your router to peer with routers in the houses that you can see from your house. Contests. Otherwise, the word socialism would lose its meaning. Again, probably not your intended meaning, but I wanted to address it anyway. There's merit in what you say. If there is an issue, let's say global warming or geology, the flat Earthers should be able to post a visible statement under the photo of Earth posted by NASA and climate scientists should be able to post a statement to climate change deniers content. And Finland is somewhere in-between. Days of the Bagnold Summer ... in the complexities and controversies surrounding Australia and New Zealand's involvement in Vietnam may find "Danger Close" disappointing. If anything, decentralised networks can be targeted very efficiently by a bad actor and the rest would have no recourse. While most democratic governments currently involve some form of centralization, a pure democracy is one where every person has equal power. Yes I'm caricaturizing. Private/semi private anti-vax groups are of course another huge issue right now. If you have none, you are none. Sources inside the store said Atta may have held a BJ's membership card for more than two years."[44]. Recent news. [40], Another variation of the Two Attas theory reported by Kaus notes that Omar Abdel Rahman also had an associate with the name Mohamed El-Amir (a name sometimes used by Atta) who was not the Mohamed Atta involved in the 9/11 hijacking. Unless you show up at the office crying. > They’re not wrong! startup taking advantage of the current ... Bangbros Bubble Butts, Hookup Hotshot, Extreme Movie Pass, Porn Pros, Cam Soda, Puba, Pure Taboo Official, ... Abella Danger - Click here to view all 1,894 videos. villains. Can you please elaborate on what you mean by “inflammatory actors” a bit? Which might be measured as the proportion of wealth owned by the wealthiest few, and the rest of the peoples. A few others had "medical emergencies". Are you saying these countries would be better off outside of the EU? Browse through and take my chemical romance danger days movies quizzes . > Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe profit hugely from the EU and would never seriously consider going back to the previous state of things. There's only an incentive to invest in content moderation to the point where the issues caused by the people they host are threatening the performance of the business model. We need both the ability to centralize some aspects and diversify other aspects. In most of Europe it's quite a positive thing to say your government is more socialist, or has more socialist policies. Not everybody is finding things the same way as everybody else, so esoteric garbage mistakenly promoted by somebody's bad code doesn't have as much reach. The question for this Committee is to investigate how far that position extends and why. So there is that. In an interview with Fox News, Smith reported that the project had involved analysis of data from a large number of public sources and 20 to 30 individuals.[32]. Lobbying isn't easier in a centralised power structure. Strong Political Commitment at the Higher Levels, 4. The same thing is probably happening on an EU level, where many people feel their local government has less power than before, but the EU institutions are dominated by countries with different interests. [23], On August 14, 2005, Mike Kelly, a columnist for The (Bergen) Record (New Jersey), described a telephone interview, arranged by the staff of Rep. Curt Weldon, with a man who identified himself as a member of the Able Danger team, but asked that his name not be revealed. What Ted Cruz and AOC exchanged on Twitter has no bearing to your county. The central bank keeps pushing money, Brussels and Berlin get happy about it until some external crisis show that the periphery countries never actually changed their ways and now are even more fragile to external shocks and even more dependent on the EU. Sustained Initiatives for Capacity-Building at the Local Level, 5. There's a new hope with Youtube journalism becoming mainstream but of course just recently Google was forced to create a local office to moderate the Turkish content. However, this occurred because the inspector at the Miami District Office who changed Atta's admission date failed to follow the proper procedure to ensure that the previous entry would be corrected, and a new entry was created in NIIS. ActivityPub is just a new/upcoming technology that's as much a part of the Web as RSS. A federated network gives better moderation tools to communities who actually want to moderate, but it leaves the radicalised communities free to grow, even freer than on a centralised network. Does this definition include people who actively refusing to be employed, or is there any kind of law obligations to work? Agree to everything you say, but also because of the tyranny of the majority. You have to be a Finnish citizen with no income to qualify. Unfortunately, local censorship is not a way to have our cake and eat it too. However, the businesses that provide the infrastructure and engineering that underpins digital spaces aren't in the "building communities" business. That's quite a "dream team" in my view! Centralization is a danger in an environment where there are a handful of individuals 100,000x more wealthy than everyone else. If one considers "Capitalism" and "Socialism" as the two extremes of an economic organization continuum (which is reasonable), Finland is indeed "more socialist" (or better yet, less capitalist) than the US. It concluded after it had achieved its objective and its work products were used in follow-on intelligence gathering efforts at USSOCOM. Relocalization seems like an obvious consequence of decentralizalization to me. everyone is trying to extract maximum value). On the other hand, cracking down on the violent-adjacent would just further radicalize them and push them into the violent underground. If anything it'd probably accelerate the process. So, basically anybody opposed to the TINA. It's really where two understandings of reality met. If you'd like to order some # ddtmrayguns inbox me. My way of thinking is that if someone mentions(even implies or dog whistles) someone else on a social network, the person subjected to the words should have an automatic right for a visible reply. Freedom actually corresponds well with the rise of nation states that centralized power. No, you are even more wrong. Capitalism and socialism, on the other hand, are very vague terms, and I think the many discussions here prove that. Sure, one can get rid of the EU. The upside of that maybe there is more awareness of what is going on. In real world social networks we have methods like labelling liars(You have one identity and you risk it every time you say something), right to defend yourself(You can actually identify and force your way to reach the people who are exposed to, or facilitate it) if you are being smeared for or accused of wrongdoing. [14], Following the GSN report, members of the 9/11 Commission began commenting on the information they had on Able Danger and Atta. The copies within Lt Col Shaffer's files were destroyed by the DIA in approximately Spring 2004. Effective Judicial System, Citizens' Oversight and Anticorruption Bodies to prevent Decentralization of Corruption. The bare minimum of being socialist is to want to transition away from a capitalist system which no country in Europe has any ambitions. They're $10 each. Instead of having multiple echo chambers on one centralized network, let's now have multiple echo chambers on a decentralized service where it's even harder to hear opposing viewpoints! If you know anything about Greece besides Santorini and Mykonos, it should strike a note. - EU: you say probably to something that every Euro-skeptic has been saying for decades already. > Has that ever happened or is that just an argument to let politicians keep their power? For the same reason, smallish countries seem to be much more democratic and closer to the people (e.g., Switzerland). "[30], Capt. [23], Congressman Peter Hoekstra, who was then chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, investigated the matter at Weldon's request, was reported to have cautioned against "hyperventilating" before the completion of a "thorough" probe. In fact, Able Danger produced no actionable intelligence information. The May 2, 2001, transaction with Atta was data entered and then uploaded to NIIS as if it were a new entry by Atta. So a wealthy person speeding will feel the hurt. High fanout bad faith actors (political demagogues) will always exist, but it takes an impedance-matching middle layer creating social proof to enable them at such scale. Successful extremists do it in the light of day, out in the open. I think the issue is better described as "corruption", rather than lobbying. It is most unlikely that Able Danger would have identified a terrorist called "Mohamed Atta" before May 2000. CIA will never provide that to you because if you were successful in your effort to target Al Qaeda, you will steal our thunder. Or a country where one party owns everything but pretends to act on behalf of the workers, as opposed to a country where everyone is a business owner? None of those are policies exclusive to a socialist system. 10. Apple pretty much bought Ireland's tax authorities. They further stated that a claim about Atta having been identified prior to the attacks had been made to the 9/11 Commission on July 12, 2004 (just days before the commission's report was released), by a United States Navy officer employed at DOD, but that, The interviewee had no documentary evidence and said he had only seen the document briefly some years earlier. If we moved away from a handful of services for the whole planet, wouldn't the logical next phase be a service or two per city? Kenny Loggins performs in the music video "Danger Zone" from the original motion picture soundtrack for the film Top Gun (1986) recorded for Columbia Records. I think if there was a more robust social media market instead of a Facebook/Twitter duopoly, we would have seen at least _some_ platforms move to restrict things sooner, and maybe even a majority of platforms. Watch 365 Days porn videos for free, here on Pornhub.com. This is effectively how QAnon spread, as a niche group on fringe websites, before it grew to millions of users. And the article does not really answer that, well beyond censorship. Then I discovered this on the dangers of decentralization: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization#Criticism, > Other challenges, and even dangers, include the possibility that corrupt local elites can capture regional or local power centers, while constituents lose representation; patronage politics will become rampant and civil servants feel compromised; further necessary decentralization can be stymied; incomplete information and hidden decision-making can occur up and down the hierarchies; centralized power centers can find reasons to frustrate decentralization and bring power back to themselves. [4], The Senate panel of investigators said there was no evidence DoD lawyers stopped analysts from sharing findings with the FBI before the attacks. No, I think the EU is far too decentralized in areas that matter. The hierarchical or aristocratic authorities did not interfere in the affairs of the community, which met to deliberate on political communal, financial, judicial and parochial issues. So democracy is a hollow word, or worse: a facade, a lie. It's a very unpopular sentiment here on HN, but I agree with the gist of what you are saying. If we see the gap widening we see that they get what they pay for, and the for-sure-not-super-rich masses dont get what they vote for. ", This page was last edited on 12 February 2021, at 15:20. When you broadcast it to five million people, you're going to get fifty thousand converts. Sure, excellent. People stuck in this "welfare trap" could actually work a little to improve their standing. So democracy is a hollow word, or worse: a facade, a lie. Isn't diffusion of power more-or-less the point of democracy? Unsuccessful extremists do their recruitment in backyards and echo chambers. My takeaway from this is that the web does need to go back to being decentralized, but a loose yet robust framework, like the one described above, should be in place for providers and community maintainers alike. Maybe (if you are lucky) you get some alternance of power so that no single group gets to be in control and some equilibrium gets to be established. A failsafe mechanism is possible here to counter lobbying of industrial complexes. Centralized decision-making by trained experts and reduced power for local wards made government less corrupt but more distant and isolated from the people it served. California having high taxes does not make it socialist. 1 boy. Political discourse seems highly polysemic. But online it's trivial to find some place that will let me post "hail satan" and ignoring its existence will just have to be good enough for those who don't like it. It also would require an unrealistic "deprogramming" of society which makes the idea just another utopia (at least not achievable without huge sacrifice to what we hold dear today). So you can't work part-time. Given the prevalence of self-hosting, it could be closer to being classified as properly decentralized except that there is a clear server/client distinction. >What we need is a mechanism for breaking circuits of lies and propaganda. I guess I never resolved in which camp I fall. I am glad to see the community continually re-discover this site now and again. That’s all there is to it, and calling Finland socialist seems rather inappropriate to Europeans. Like, say, Turkey? Hmm feels like a great tool to create echo chambers. [3] https://www.spd.de/fileadmin/Dokumente/Beschluesse/Grundsatz... That's hard to believe. Lobbying is much easier in a centralized power structure. It's the accumulation of wealth. I don't think you should be able to "broadcast" anonymously. In Germany (and many other EU countries), companies have executive board and supervisory board, the later is mainly to provide monitoring role and that is the board where empolyees have seat on. France did. Taxes are among the highest in the world (wealth redistribution). Who decides if they are “racist, sexist or violent”? A follow-up chart made after the attacks did show Atta. Like the comment said, pearl clutching all of the sudden. No doubt capitalist extremists want centralized services too because they can convert everyone to their ideology, consumerism. All the while cementing the country in a low-income periphery position by virtue of being dominated by the EU central bank actions. > Lobbies basically work in favour of the super rich. Nevertheless, I think in general de/centralization is orthogonal to censoring inflammatory actors. Everyone not participating in the capitalist economy (by owning business or being employed at one) is essentially a government/military reserve employee on indefinite paid leave receiving a budget that covers virtually all living expenses to quite a reasonable standard. - Can receive a maximum of around $50/month from anywhere else. I think we have to be careful here because none of these countries which we have thus far mentioned have any ambitions of attaining the socialist crown you speak of. They agreed that at least some of them are important. I don't think lobbying is a symptom of centralization. What we need is "diversity in unity and unity in diversity". I don't think you really need that much of a justification to claim that centralized power is a danger to democracy. So no need to use 'socialist' instead of 'social democratic' unless you want to dogwhistle to communist supporters. It would be very easy for media to discus it, and debung those arguments. There are always going to be communities like that. Yet, it caused so much pain to the Greek minority and Turkey lost so much as the Greek christian population declined from 120K to 7K in 20 years. I could indeed mine bitcoins for free. Which is a very different proposition. Even so, from what I read a guard was killed in an altercation with the mob, and a protestor was shot by police. The sad reality is that humanity is not ready for something like the Internet. Indeed local governments tend to be much more prone to graft than the central ones (though this may simply be due to the fact that there are so many more people to potentially corrupt). For example, if the EU had a centralized fiscal&monetary policy, things would have looked much less bleak for southern parts of the Union. Then it sort of works fpr couple of decades. 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[6], The program used data mining techniques to associate open source information with classified information in an attempt to make connections among individual members of terrorist groups as part of its original "intelligence preparation of the battlespace". The hottest pornstars doing their best work can always be found here at Pornhub.com so it's no surprise that only the steamiest Kayla Jane Danger sex videos await you on this porn tube and will keep you coming back. I agree that Singapore is a hellish dystopia, but Switzerland's referenda and its strong stance on not going to war (but keeping a strong army for defense) are undeniable attractive points. It's really not. Lobby is power for money, democracy is power for votes (at least it should be). However, Defense Intelligence Agency leadership had already ordered the hurried destruction of mined data, source databases, charts and resultant documents on entirely spurious legal grounds. IMO it looks to us like the only "natural" way for humans is a centralized system/power structure because we simply are unable to envision a world which is not. Isn't Sweden openly looking for special deals with data centers? polarisation, destabilisation, regime change, forming opinions within a population that are economically beneficial to the attacking country, etc). Decentralized authority can work in situations where people can't freely associate, for example if my town forbids me from putting a "Hail Satan" sign on my lawn, it's a significant burden to move to a town of satanists, and even if I did, it would no longer be a problem for the town I left. The only downside is, if there's war, I have to give my life for the country. The 10,000 copies of the books have not been released yet. He believed that Able Danger identified Mohamed Atta 13 separate times prior to 9/11 and that the unit also identified a potential situation in Yemen two weeks prior to the October 12, 2000 attack on the USS Cole. If Bernie Sanders had his way[1] and this was implemented in the US, the country would become more socialist. WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on President Donald Trump and impeachment (all times local): 5:25 p.m. President Donald Trump is ordering the U.S. flag to be flown at half-staff as a … Orwell himself had something opposite to say in 1944 no less: "It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. The principle for our actions is social democracy. [49] The next day, there was a joint committee meeting with the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Unconventional Threats and Capabilities and the Subcommittee on Strategic Forces, to discuss the Able Danger program.[50]. "[45], "unfortunately we are not aware of the continuing existence of any chart containing Mohamed Atta's name or photograph. A decentralized web means knowing the guy who runs the server you're connecting to. They like it the way it is: capitalist with strong protections for and investments (education, healthcare) in their capital producing peoples. We're going after the leadership. >and no that's not necessarily a benefit to the poor, or the underprivileged, or any other banner of victimization that you might fly to justify that state. If it doesn't meet this definition, I wouldn't call it socialist. It has power, to some degree, but it doesn't have real representation. Quote German Wikipedia on Sozialismus[1], which views Sozialdemokratie as one of its branches: > Demzufolge wird auch grob zwischen den Ausrichtungen von Kommunismus, Sozialdemokratie oder Anarchismus differenziert. some of the people (other than Scott) who influenced my thinking on this would be: Berger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_L._Berger (especially http://perflensburg.se/Berger%20social-construction-of-reali...), Jacques Ellul https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSoci... (also Propaganda). One can make arguments either way. We as a society have decided that this is the correct decision for that instance to ensure that it won't repeat itself in some form or another in the future. It is not a joke at all. If those are the only places they can get new converts, they are not going to be wildly successful. But, as people keep forgetting, Europe has giant multinationals and lobbyists of its own. It's like a. But you'll notice that most countries actually don't want this - especially Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe profit hugely from the EU and would never seriously consider going back to the previous state of things. Once you put sufficient power in the government: the most ambitious individuals will compete for privileged positions within political movements rather than businesses, political movements will compete with alternative political movements for the reigns of government. Long gone are the days of kid safe TV and the heyday of Saturday morning cartoons. Parent didn't call Finland socialist, just said "more socialist". Meh, agreed, it wasn't organized by the military. They declined to comment on the reports as they worked to clarify the matter. When your value as a human being is tied to a monetary competition, you are either rich and alive or poor and struggling to survive. Clearly not. Instead, let me refer you to https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili... who maybe can get the point across better than me. Video clips from the film play throughout. A textbook reformist democratic socialist policy would be giving employees a seat on the board of directors, or allocating some company shares of publicly traded companies to them. My point is that there are plenty of lobbies in America which are powerful and work on behalf of the non-rich. [3], An investigation by the Defense Department Inspector General's office (IG) in September 2006 concluded that "the evidence did not support assertions that Able Danger identified the September 11, 2001, terrorists nearly a year before the attack, that Able Danger team members were prohibited from sharing information with law enforcement authorities, or that DoD officials acted against LTC Shaffer for his disclosures regarding Able Danger." > Democracy isn't so much threatened but actually harmed by the mere existence of centralized power. https://ipa.news/2018/12/30/turkeys-pro-government-construct... https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili... https://nntaleb.medium.com/lebanon-from-ponzi-to-antifragili. To me the EU is becoming Germany's revenge for losing two wars: they failed by military force, so now they are taking it over by economic domination. Even success stories in maximising their geographic advantages like Singapore hardly qualify as 'more democratic'. The inspector sent the old I-94 and the corrected I-94 to the contractor which data enters I-94s for the INS. Even if a social policy was first introduced in response to uprisings, that doesn’t demonstrate that simply quelling the uprising was its sole purpose. I think the reason why centralization is a danger to democracy, is because of lobbying. The government introduced advertisement ban on media that doesn't have a local office to respond to government requests. Mohamed Atta is in the U.S. on a green card, and we are fearful of the fallout from the Waco incident. Email is probably the best-known part of the Fediverse. Politicians need information from non-politicians to form and implement coherent policies that work for the people. Switzerland has mostly private funding, even heavier regulation (insurance is mandatory and you can't be refused for pre-existing conditions, for example), and most practice is private (some public hospitals). Definitely going to spend some time Capitalism and a free market are pretty much orthogonally related (consider, if you will, the ideal capitalist state in which a single capitalist controls 100% of the market). [34][35], Former chief assistant U.S. attorney Andrew McCarthy and others have asserted that the Able Danger intelligence was suppressed as a result of a policy of forbidding the CIA and FBI to share intelligence known as "the wall. And having a solid social system in place is hardly a socialist thing. Those dealing with How: for the converted. Democracy also allows for failure if the people do not see their will adequately reflected. I have a slight different idea that is also very unpopular. Can you think of any government agency that has such powers? It's worth questioning to what extent fundamental human desires really are so fundamental, isn't it? AFAIK in the US speeding tickets are flat fees. The Senate Judiciary Committee first attempted to investigate the matter for the Senate in September, 2005. A sitting politician complained for fraud. Remove power from the central entity, and there will be less of an incentive/risk of abuse? And if he "orchestrated" a walk-in into the Capitol (where nothing much happened, and politicians were up to business as usual the very same day), the other side has organized and lauded dozens of protests, including some with looting and even burning of police departments and areas of cities, throughout 4 years. > Convicted criminals can still vote. In a decentralized system, you'd still have lobbyists, they'ed just be spread out more. A decentralizalized internet means configuring your router to peer with routers in the houses that you can see from your house. Contests. Otherwise, the word socialism would lose its meaning. Again, probably not your intended meaning, but I wanted to address it anyway. There's merit in what you say. If there is an issue, let's say global warming or geology, the flat Earthers should be able to post a visible statement under the photo of Earth posted by NASA and climate scientists should be able to post a statement to climate change deniers content. And Finland is somewhere in-between. Days of the Bagnold Summer ... in the complexities and controversies surrounding Australia and New Zealand's involvement in Vietnam may find "Danger Close" disappointing. If anything, decentralised networks can be targeted very efficiently by a bad actor and the rest would have no recourse. While most democratic governments currently involve some form of centralization, a pure democracy is one where every person has equal power. Yes I'm caricaturizing. Private/semi private anti-vax groups are of course another huge issue right now. If you have none, you are none. Sources inside the store said Atta may have held a BJ's membership card for more than two years."[44]. Recent news. [40], Another variation of the Two Attas theory reported by Kaus notes that Omar Abdel Rahman also had an associate with the name Mohamed El-Amir (a name sometimes used by Atta) who was not the Mohamed Atta involved in the 9/11 hijacking. Unless you show up at the office crying. > They’re not wrong! startup taking advantage of the current ... Bangbros Bubble Butts, Hookup Hotshot, Extreme Movie Pass, Porn Pros, Cam Soda, Puba, Pure Taboo Official, ... Abella Danger - Click here to view all 1,894 videos. villains. Can you please elaborate on what you mean by “inflammatory actors” a bit? Which might be measured as the proportion of wealth owned by the wealthiest few, and the rest of the peoples. A few others had "medical emergencies". Are you saying these countries would be better off outside of the EU? Browse through and take my chemical romance danger days movies quizzes . > Euro-critical countries in eastern Europe profit hugely from the EU and would never seriously consider going back to the previous state of things. There's only an incentive to invest in content moderation to the point where the issues caused by the people they host are threatening the performance of the business model. We need both the ability to centralize some aspects and diversify other aspects. In most of Europe it's quite a positive thing to say your government is more socialist, or has more socialist policies. Not everybody is finding things the same way as everybody else, so esoteric garbage mistakenly promoted by somebody's bad code doesn't have as much reach. The question for this Committee is to investigate how far that position extends and why. So there is that. In an interview with Fox News, Smith reported that the project had involved analysis of data from a large number of public sources and 20 to 30 individuals.[32]. Lobbying isn't easier in a centralised power structure. Strong Political Commitment at the Higher Levels, 4. The same thing is probably happening on an EU level, where many people feel their local government has less power than before, but the EU institutions are dominated by countries with different interests. [23], On August 14, 2005, Mike Kelly, a columnist for The (Bergen) Record (New Jersey), described a telephone interview, arranged by the staff of Rep. Curt Weldon, with a man who identified himself as a member of the Able Danger team, but asked that his name not be revealed. What Ted Cruz and AOC exchanged on Twitter has no bearing to your county. The central bank keeps pushing money, Brussels and Berlin get happy about it until some external crisis show that the periphery countries never actually changed their ways and now are even more fragile to external shocks and even more dependent on the EU. Sustained Initiatives for Capacity-Building at the Local Level, 5. There's a new hope with Youtube journalism becoming mainstream but of course just recently Google was forced to create a local office to moderate the Turkish content. However, this occurred because the inspector at the Miami District Office who changed Atta's admission date failed to follow the proper procedure to ensure that the previous entry would be corrected, and a new entry was created in NIIS. ActivityPub is just a new/upcoming technology that's as much a part of the Web as RSS. A federated network gives better moderation tools to communities who actually want to moderate, but it leaves the radicalised communities free to grow, even freer than on a centralised network. Does this definition include people who actively refusing to be employed, or is there any kind of law obligations to work? Agree to everything you say, but also because of the tyranny of the majority. You have to be a Finnish citizen with no income to qualify. Unfortunately, local censorship is not a way to have our cake and eat it too. However, the businesses that provide the infrastructure and engineering that underpins digital spaces aren't in the "building communities" business. That's quite a "dream team" in my view! Centralization is a danger in an environment where there are a handful of individuals 100,000x more wealthy than everyone else. If one considers "Capitalism" and "Socialism" as the two extremes of an economic organization continuum (which is reasonable), Finland is indeed "more socialist" (or better yet, less capitalist) than the US. It concluded after it had achieved its objective and its work products were used in follow-on intelligence gathering efforts at USSOCOM. Relocalization seems like an obvious consequence of decentralizalization to me. everyone is trying to extract maximum value). On the other hand, cracking down on the violent-adjacent would just further radicalize them and push them into the violent underground. If anything it'd probably accelerate the process. So, basically anybody opposed to the TINA. It's really where two understandings of reality met. If you'd like to order some # ddtmrayguns inbox me. My way of thinking is that if someone mentions(even implies or dog whistles) someone else on a social network, the person subjected to the words should have an automatic right for a visible reply. Freedom actually corresponds well with the rise of nation states that centralized power. No, you are even more wrong. Capitalism and socialism, on the other hand, are very vague terms, and I think the many discussions here prove that. Sure, one can get rid of the EU. The upside of that maybe there is more awareness of what is going on. In real world social networks we have methods like labelling liars(You have one identity and you risk it every time you say something), right to defend yourself(You can actually identify and force your way to reach the people who are exposed to, or facilitate it) if you are being smeared for or accused of wrongdoing. [14], Following the GSN report, members of the 9/11 Commission began commenting on the information they had on Able Danger and Atta. The copies within Lt Col Shaffer's files were destroyed by the DIA in approximately Spring 2004. Effective Judicial System, Citizens' Oversight and Anticorruption Bodies to prevent Decentralization of Corruption. The bare minimum of being socialist is to want to transition away from a capitalist system which no country in Europe has any ambitions. They're $10 each. Instead of having multiple echo chambers on one centralized network, let's now have multiple echo chambers on a decentralized service where it's even harder to hear opposing viewpoints! If you know anything about Greece besides Santorini and Mykonos, it should strike a note. - EU: you say probably to something that every Euro-skeptic has been saying for decades already. > Has that ever happened or is that just an argument to let politicians keep their power? For the same reason, smallish countries seem to be much more democratic and closer to the people (e.g., Switzerland). "[30], Capt. [23], Congressman Peter Hoekstra, who was then chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, investigated the matter at Weldon's request, was reported to have cautioned against "hyperventilating" before the completion of a "thorough" probe. In fact, Able Danger produced no actionable intelligence information. The May 2, 2001, transaction with Atta was data entered and then uploaded to NIIS as if it were a new entry by Atta. So a wealthy person speeding will feel the hurt. High fanout bad faith actors (political demagogues) will always exist, but it takes an impedance-matching middle layer creating social proof to enable them at such scale. Successful extremists do it in the light of day, out in the open. I think the issue is better described as "corruption", rather than lobbying. It is most unlikely that Able Danger would have identified a terrorist called "Mohamed Atta" before May 2000. CIA will never provide that to you because if you were successful in your effort to target Al Qaeda, you will steal our thunder. Or a country where one party owns everything but pretends to act on behalf of the workers, as opposed to a country where everyone is a business owner? None of those are policies exclusive to a socialist system. 10. Apple pretty much bought Ireland's tax authorities. They further stated that a claim about Atta having been identified prior to the attacks had been made to the 9/11 Commission on July 12, 2004 (just days before the commission's report was released), by a United States Navy officer employed at DOD, but that, The interviewee had no documentary evidence and said he had only seen the document briefly some years earlier. If we moved away from a handful of services for the whole planet, wouldn't the logical next phase be a service or two per city? Kenny Loggins performs in the music video "Danger Zone" from the original motion picture soundtrack for the film Top Gun (1986) recorded for Columbia Records. I think if there was a more robust social media market instead of a Facebook/Twitter duopoly, we would have seen at least _some_ platforms move to restrict things sooner, and maybe even a majority of platforms. Watch 365 Days porn videos for free, here on Pornhub.com. This is effectively how QAnon spread, as a niche group on fringe websites, before it grew to millions of users. And the article does not really answer that, well beyond censorship. Then I discovered this on the dangers of decentralization: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization#Criticism, > Other challenges, and even dangers, include the possibility that corrupt local elites can capture regional or local power centers, while constituents lose representation; patronage politics will become rampant and civil servants feel compromised; further necessary decentralization can be stymied; incomplete information and hidden decision-making can occur up and down the hierarchies; centralized power centers can find reasons to frustrate decentralization and bring power back to themselves. [4], The Senate panel of investigators said there was no evidence DoD lawyers stopped analysts from sharing findings with the FBI before the attacks. No, I think the EU is far too decentralized in areas that matter. The hierarchical or aristocratic authorities did not interfere in the affairs of the community, which met to deliberate on political communal, financial, judicial and parochial issues. So democracy is a hollow word, or worse: a facade, a lie. It's a very unpopular sentiment here on HN, but I agree with the gist of what you are saying. If we see the gap widening we see that they get what they pay for, and the for-sure-not-super-rich masses dont get what they vote for. ", This page was last edited on 12 February 2021, at 15:20. When you broadcast it to five million people, you're going to get fifty thousand converts. Sure, excellent. People stuck in this "welfare trap" could actually work a little to improve their standing. So democracy is a hollow word, or worse: a facade, a lie. Isn't diffusion of power more-or-less the point of democracy? Unsuccessful extremists do their recruitment in backyards and echo chambers. My takeaway from this is that the web does need to go back to being decentralized, but a loose yet robust framework, like the one described above, should be in place for providers and community maintainers alike. Maybe (if you are lucky) you get some alternance of power so that no single group gets to be in control and some equilibrium gets to be established. A failsafe mechanism is possible here to counter lobbying of industrial complexes. Centralized decision-making by trained experts and reduced power for local wards made government less corrupt but more distant and isolated from the people it served. California having high taxes does not make it socialist. 1 boy. Political discourse seems highly polysemic. But online it's trivial to find some place that will let me post "hail satan" and ignoring its existence will just have to be good enough for those who don't like it. It also would require an unrealistic "deprogramming" of society which makes the idea just another utopia (at least not achievable without huge sacrifice to what we hold dear today). So you can't work part-time. Given the prevalence of self-hosting, it could be closer to being classified as properly decentralized except that there is a clear server/client distinction. >What we need is a mechanism for breaking circuits of lies and propaganda. I guess I never resolved in which camp I fall. I am glad to see the community continually re-discover this site now and again. That’s all there is to it, and calling Finland socialist seems rather inappropriate to Europeans. Like, say, Turkey? Hmm feels like a great tool to create echo chambers. [3] https://www.spd.de/fileadmin/Dokumente/Beschluesse/Grundsatz... That's hard to believe. Lobbying is much easier in a centralized power structure. It's the accumulation of wealth. I don't think you should be able to "broadcast" anonymously. In Germany (and many other EU countries), companies have executive board and supervisory board, the later is mainly to provide monitoring role and that is the board where empolyees have seat on. France did. Taxes are among the highest in the world (wealth redistribution). Who decides if they are “racist, sexist or violent”? A follow-up chart made after the attacks did show Atta. Like the comment said, pearl clutching all of the sudden. No doubt capitalist extremists want centralized services too because they can convert everyone to their ideology, consumerism. All the while cementing the country in a low-income periphery position by virtue of being dominated by the EU central bank actions. > Lobbies basically work in favour of the super rich. Nevertheless, I think in general de/centralization is orthogonal to censoring inflammatory actors. Everyone not participating in the capitalist economy (by owning business or being employed at one) is essentially a government/military reserve employee on indefinite paid leave receiving a budget that covers virtually all living expenses to quite a reasonable standard. - Can receive a maximum of around $50/month from anywhere else. I think we have to be careful here because none of these countries which we have thus far mentioned have any ambitions of attaining the socialist crown you speak of. They agreed that at least some of them are important. I don't think lobbying is a symptom of centralization. What we need is "diversity in unity and unity in diversity". I don't think you really need that much of a justification to claim that centralized power is a danger to democracy. So no need to use 'socialist' instead of 'social democratic' unless you want to dogwhistle to communist supporters. It would be very easy for media to discus it, and debung those arguments. There are always going to be communities like that. Yet, it caused so much pain to the Greek minority and Turkey lost so much as the Greek christian population declined from 120K to 7K in 20 years. I could indeed mine bitcoins for free. Which is a very different proposition. Even so, from what I read a guard was killed in an altercation with the mob, and a protestor was shot by police. The sad reality is that humanity is not ready for something like the Internet. Indeed local governments tend to be much more prone to graft than the central ones (though this may simply be due to the fact that there are so many more people to potentially corrupt). For example, if the EU had a centralized fiscal&monetary policy, things would have looked much less bleak for southern parts of the Union. Then it sort of works fpr couple of decades. 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